NY Bar Brawl Security Staff Roped Into Melee ... After Trying to Break It Up

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4:24 PM PT -- Hayley Burley -- the owner/manager of Shorts Bar & Grills -- tells TMZ ... there was one real troublemaker who started this mess, even though it looks like a free-for-all.

She adds, "Holidays are a really crazy busy time of year and we do everything we can to ensure that everyone has a fun and safe holiday. The man involved was taking swings at my customers. Unfortunately the video doesn't really depict my bartender who was trying to help get the situation under control is having his ankle twisted in the and asking for help. We never condone any type of violence and the police were called and responded immediately."

A security staffer who got dragged into a bar fight he was trying to break up just proves the old adage is true ... no good deed goes unpunished, and sometimes you gotta kick ass.

Check out this wild footage, obtained by TMZ, showing an absolute melee going down late Friday night/early Saturday morning at a joint called Shorts Bar & Grill out in Fairport, NY ... where we're told 4 dudes went at it right on the floor as the evening tipped into midnight.

As exciting as that was ... it was nothing compared to when one of the hired "Staff" security guards stepped in. At first, he was pulling people away and separating everyone -- that is, until someone on the outskirts apparently pushed him down to keep the chaos going.

That's certainly what it looks like, anyway ... and that's certainly how the bouncer took it -- 'cause the guy started wailing on the man whom he suspected of shoving/provoking.

Indeed ... the beatdown he dished out to this older fella is pretty brutal -- dropping elbows on him and socking away. Eventually, they let the guy get up and stumble his way out of the scene. He didn't really put up much of a fight, and it's unclear what happened after.

No word on whether cops were called to this brawl or not either ... and what's even weirder is that this seems to have been Buffalo Bills related (if the jersey'd fan is any indication).

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We know the Bills Mafia can get rowdy, but weirdly enough ... their team doesn't even play until Monday. Never too early to let the fists fly, we suppose -- happy holidays, everyone!

Originally Published -- 1:14 PM PT

Derek Chauvin George Floyd Cop Stabbed In Prison ... Hospitalized In Stable Condition

Infamous ex-cop Derek Chauvin -- who was convicted of murdering George Floyd in Minneapolis -- was stabbed in federal prison and rushed to a hospital, but his injuries were not considered life-threatening, TMZ has confirmed.

A rep for Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison tells TMZ ... Chauvin was listed in stable condition after he was assaulted Friday at the Federal Correctional Institution in Tucson, Arizona.

In a statement, Ellison said, "I am sad to hear that Derek Chauvin was the target of violence. He was duly convicted of his crimes and, like any incarcerated individual, he should be able to serve his sentence without fear of retaliation or violence."

Ellison prosecuted Chauvin in the state murder case after Floyd's 2020 death.

The Bureau of Prisons also issued a statement without naming Chauvin, saying an "incarcerated person" was attacked at the prison around 12:30 PM yesterday. It was unclear who the suspect was, but the Associated Press reported it was another inmate.

Prison staff responded and brought the situation under control while performing "life-saving measures" on the victim, the BOP said, adding that no employees were injured.

The victim was taken to the hospital, where doctors were treating and evaluating him.

As we previously reported, Chauvin was convicted of Floyd's slaying in a Minnesota state court and sentenced to more than 22 years in prison. He also pleaded guilty to a separate federal charge of violating Floyd's civil rights and was given a 20-year term, which he's currently serving at the Arizona prison.

The murder of Floyd was recorded on cell phone video, which was circulated around the world, shocking the public consciousness.

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The disturbing nine-and-a-half-minute clip showed Chauvin pressing his knee against the neck of Floyd as he lay helpless on the ground in Minneapolis. Floyd repeatedly cried out that he couldn't breathe, but Chauvin refused to take away his knee until it was too late.

Chauvin was originally called to the scene after Floyd was suspected of passing phony bills at a nearby convenience store. A 19-year veteran officer, Chauvin was fired from the Minneapolis PD following the Floyd murder.

NYC Subway Thanksgiving Served On Train ... Passengers Enjoy Feast!!!

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A New York City subway train saw a Thanksgiving meal served to hungry passengers ... with folks passing around plates and eating on their underground ride.

Ya gotta see the video ... there's a table full of Thanksgiving treats and drinks, and people are sharing food and laughs between stops.

Tons of passengers are packed on the train like sardines and friendly folks are making sure anyone who wants to eat is served. Some people are sitting and eating, others are chowing down while standing up and everyone looks happy.

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This looks to be turning into a bit of a Thanksgiving tradition in the Big Apple ... last year, a Turkey Day dinner was served to riders on the L Train ... with heaping plates of sweet potatoes, mac and cheese, turkey and green bean casserole.

Never change, New Yorkers!!!

Taylor Swift Police Launch Investigation ... After Fan Dies at Rio Concert

Police in Brazil have reportedly opened a probe into the organizers of last Friday’s oppressively hot Taylor Swift concert that left one fan dead and the pop star gasping for air.

A rep for Rio de Janeiro’s Civil Police Department said they launched an investigation into Time4Fun, the company that arranged the event at Estádio Olímpico Nilton Santos on November 17, according to NBC News.

Investigators from the consumer delegations department are specifically looking into whether Time4Fun committed the “crime of endangering the life and health” of the show’s attendees, the spokesperson said. The rep added that company execs will also be called to testify.

As you know, Ana Clara Benevides Machado fell unconscious before Taylor hit the stage during the record-breaking heat that night.

Ana later passed away at a hospital, and prosecutors announced they would investigate her cause of death, which has not been disclosed.

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As for Taylor, she was filmed seemingly struggling to breathe onstage during her performance. Fans took to social media and expressed their concern for her well-being.

They also demanded Time4Fun supply more water to fans at Taylor’s next 2 shows in Rio, although one was subsequently postponed due to the heat.

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On Thursday, company execs issued a statement, apologizing to concertgoers and admitting they had made mistakes, saying they “did not economize in our efforts or resources to follow the best global practices in our industry to guarantee the comfort and safety of all.”

The company previously released a statement addressing fans’ concerns over the lack of water, promising to provide more H20 at Taylor’s two specified concerts.

Rainbow Bridge Crash New Video Shows Bentley Airborne, Crashing, Exploding

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New video has surfaced of the horrific car crash at the U.S.-Canadian border that left 2 people dead and authorities scrambling for answers.

The video provides a clearer look at the Bentley that went airborne ... then crashed and exploded into a guard post at the border, killing both occupants inside -- a husband and wife.

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The car was traveling at an extremely high rate of speed ... and it's unclear why. There have been reports the driver may have suffered a medical emergency.

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The U.S. Customs and Border Patrol released the video. The Agency is investigating the crash, to determine if it was accidental or intentional.

The Bentley crashed on the U.S. side of the bridge crossing. The couple was on their way to the KISS concert in Toronto, but when that concert was canceled they decided to go to a casino instead.

NY Gov Kathy Hochul said Wednesday there's no indication this was a terrorist attack. The U.S. Attorney for NY doubled down, saying the prelim investigation shows terrorism was not involved.

Swerve Strickland Talks Bloody Match Vs. Adam Page Here's What Hurt The Most!

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Swerve Stickland and "Hangman" Adam Page used everything from a barbed wire-wrapped chair to a heavy-duty staple gun to beat the s*** out of each other during last weekend's AEW match. We asked Swerve how he felt after the bloody match, and what part was most painful.

Swerve joined Mojo Muhtadi on "TMZ Sports" TV show (airs nightly on FS1) ... and talked about the Texas Deathmatch at AEW's Full Gear, which Strickland ultimately won. But, he paid a price.

"It was that Hangman Moonsault with the chair and barbed wire. Hangman is a deceptively massive man in itself. Receiving a Moonsault from him at that height and that weight and that speed and velocity already takes a lot out of you," Swerve told us.

"Add in a metal chair wrapped in like probably hundreds of yards of barbed wire wrapped in a spool around it, it just scraped across me, along with Hangman landing across me. Out of all the brutal stuff we did in that match, that was probably the one that stuck out."

With the big match under his belt and Strickland's stock being at an all-time high, we asked him what was next.

Swerve mentioned competing in the upcoming Continental Classic tournament ... but also has his sights set on something more historic.

"I feel like I catapulted myself as one of the top guys in the industry. And I said this before, earlier in the year, I really feel I can be the first African American AEW world champion."

Great matches require two wrestlers putting in work ... and Strickland spoke very highly of his opponent. In fact, he thinks "Hangman" Adam Page could be this generation's Mick Foley.

Check out the full conversation between Swerve and Mojo!

SWERVE STRICKLAND HABLA DEL SANGRIENTO COMBATE CON ADAM PAGE

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Swerve Stickland y "Hangman" Adam Page usaron de todo, desde una silla envuelta en alambre de púas hasta una pistola de grapas de alta resistencia para golpearse mutuamente durante el combate de AEW del fin de semana pasado. Le preguntamos a Swerve cómo se sintió después del sangriento combate y qué parte fue la más dolorosa.

Swerve se unió a Mojo Muhtadi en el programa de televisión "TMZ Sports" (se emite todas las noches en FS1), y habló sobre el Texas Deathmatch en Full Gear de AEW, que Strickland finalmente ganó. Pero, pagó un precio.

"Fue ese Hangman Moonsault con la silla y el alambre de púas. Hangman es un hombre engañosamente grande. Recibir un Moonsault de él a esa altura y ese peso y esa velocidad y rapidez ya te quita mucho", nos dijo Swerve.

"Si a eso le añadimos una silla de metal envuelta en cientos de metros de alambre de púas que se enrollaba en una bobina a su alrededor, simplemente me raspó, y Hangman aterrizó sobre mí. De todas las cosas brutales que hicimos en ese combate, esa fue probablemente la que más me llamó la atención".

Con el gran combate en su haber y la cotización de Strickland en máximos históricos, le preguntamos qué era lo siguiente.

Swerve mencionó competir en el próximo torneo Continental Classic, pero también tiene la vista puesta en algo más histórico.

"Siento que me he catapultado como uno de los mejores del sector. Y dije esto antes, a principios de año, realmente siento que puedo ser el primer afroamericano AEW campeón del mundo".

Los grandes combates requieren que dos luchadores se esfuercen, y Strickland habló muy bien de su oponente. De hecho, cree que "Hangman" Adam Page podría ser el Mick Foley de esta generación.

¡Échale un vistazo a la conversación completa entre Swerve y Mojo!

Frontier Airlines Woman Threatens to Pee in Aisle!!! Pulls Down Pants & Squats

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A woman on a Frontier Airlines flight threatened to pee in the aisle when a flight attendant blocked her from using the restroom, going so far as to pop a butt-naked squat next to horrified passengers.

Video of the wild incident is, no shocker, going viral ... as it shows the woman telling a plane full of people she didn't "give a f***" about mooning kids and emptying her bladder for all onboard to see.

The woman's trying to make her way to the lavatory but when her path is blocked by a flight attendant, she puts her jacket down on an empty seat, and starts taking off her pants and squats down as if to pee.

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For what it's worth, she does say, "Sorry, everybody" ... but then states she's "ready to pee over here" and shocked passengers scream as she starts stripping.

Peepee Patty then stands up and demands to be let into the restroom, as concerned travelers berate her for showing her naked butt in front of kids, sparking a heated argument.

Folks who were there say it all went down on a flight from somewhere in Florida to Philadelphia ... and one passenger is accusing the woman of threatening to kill another person onboard.

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It's the second bizarre episode on a Frontier Airlines flight this week ... as we reported, another woman on a flight from Houston to Denver had an epic meltdown with some serious 'Exorcist' vibes.

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Holiday travel never fails to entertain!!!

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Frontier Airlines Mujer amenaza con orinar en el pasillo!!! Se baja los pantalones y se pone de cuclillas

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Una mujer en un vuelo de Frontier Airlines amenazó con orinar en el pasillo cuando una azafata le impidió usar el baño y llegó incluso a ponerse de cuclillas con el culo desnudo, desatando el horror de los pasajeros que la estaban mirando.

El video del incidente se está haciendo viral porque muestra a la mujer decirle a un avión lleno de gente que le importa "una m***" vaciar su vejiga y que todos la vean.

Todo empezó, cuando la mujer intentó ir al baño y una asistente de vuelo le bloqueó el camino. En ese momento dejó su chaqueta en un asiento vacío y comenzó a quitarse los pantalones como si fuera a hacerse pipí.

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Hay que reconocer que antes dice, "Lo siento, a todos", pero luego afirma que está "lista para orinar" y los pasajeros empiezan a gritar cuando la ven desnudarse.

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Peepee Patty se levanta y exige que la dejen entrar al baño. Luego los viajeros la reprenden por mostrarle su trasero a los niños, lo que desencadena una acalorada discusión.

La gente que estuvo allí dice que todo sucedió en un vuelo desde Florida hacia Filadelfia y un pasajero está acusando a la mujer de amenazar de muerte a otra persona a bordo.

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Este es el segundo episodio extraño en un vuelo de Frontier Airlines esta semana, como informamos, otra mujer en un vuelo de Houston a Denver tuvo una crisis épica con algunas series reminiscencias al "Exorcista".

¡¡¡Las vacaciones nunca dejan de entretenernos!!!

Locura en Frontier Airlines Crisis de una pasajera desata sermón en medio del vuelo El diablo tiene su alma!!!

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Cuando tu vuelo se convierte en una secuela de "El Exorcista". Así es como se puede describir esta extraña escena de una mujer que tiene una crisis épica en medio de un vuelo, dejando a sus compañeros de viaje preguntándose, ¿¡QUÉ PASÓ!?

Todo ocurrió en un avión de Frontier Airlines que viajaba de Houston a Denver, pero que tuvo que parar en Dallas después de que la pasajera con problemas comenzara a gemir como si le hubieran cortado una pierna, provocando un gran disturbio.

Nadie parece saber exactamente cuál era su problema, pero en el video se la ve llorando y discutiendo con la tripulación de vuelo y otros pasajeros mientras intenta volver a su asiento.

En un momento dado, incluso trepa por los asientos, arrastrándose por la cabina, mientras solloza y grita. Mientras todo esto ocurre, otra señora que estaba entre los pasajeros se vuelve hacia los demás y proclama que están presenciando una posesión demoníaca.

Al describir a la pasajera que está perdiendo el control, la mujer grita: "¡Esa no es ella, está poseída! Necesita ayuda". A continuación, se pone en modo predicadora y les dice a todos que deben tener una relación con Jesús para evitar este tipo de "apoderamiento" del alma.

No podemos hablar de nada de lo que hizo el Espíritu Santo, pero sabemos que la policía subió inmediatamente al avión cuando aterrizó en Dallas para sacar a la mujer perturbada. Nadie resultó herido, pero seguro que asustó a la cabina.

Vamos a decir esto, ella arrastrándose por los asientos definitivamente nos recuerda al horrible papel de Linda Blair, con excepción del vómito y la cabeza girando, por supuesto.

Viajes de vacaciones, ¡¡¡nunca hay un momento aburrido!!!

Frontier Airlines Freak-Out Passenger Meltdown Spurs Mid-Air Sermon ... The Devil Has Her Soul!!!

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When your quick flight turns into an 'Exorcist' sequel -- that's how you can describe this bizarre scene of a woman having an epic meltdown, leaving her fellow passengers to wonder ... WWJD?!?

This all went down on a Frontier Airlines jet traveling from Houston to Denver, but the flight had to stop off in Dallas after the troubled passenger started wailing like her leg was cut off ... stirring a huge disturbance.

Nobody seems to know what exactly was wrong with her -- but this video shows her crying and arguing with the in-flight crew and other passengers as she tries getting back to her seat.

At one point ... she even climbs over seats, crawling her way through the cabin, all while sobbing and hyperventilating. As this is all unfolding, some other lady who was in the mix turns to the others and proclaims they're all witnessing a demonic possession.

Describing the passenger losing it, the woman yells, "That's not her, she's possessed! She needs help!" She then goes into preacher mode, telling everyone onboard they need a relationship with Jesus to stave off this sort of "takeover" of the soul.

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We can't speak to anything the Holy Ghost did, but we know police immediately boarded the plane when it landed in Dallas to remove the disturbed woman. No one was injured, but it sure freaked out the cabin.

We'll say this, her crawling over the seats definitely brings Linda Blair's horrifying role to mind -- minus the vomit and head-spinning, of course.

Holiday travel ... never a boring moment!!!

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Marines vs. Civilians War Breaks Out In Texas ... Wild Video Shows

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Uniformed Marines battled civilians during a heated conflict in Texas -- and the wild scene was caught on video.

Sunday night's chaos was filmed by witnesses outside Austin's Voodoo Room, where the brawl erupted after a woman allegedly tried to snatch a cell phone from a Marine.

Check out the clip ... Marines, in full dress uniform, confront the woman and some other men on the street.

The two sides start arguing and shoving each other until one guy clocks a Marine in the head, causing all hell to break loose.

Several Marines go after the guy, punching him in the face and knocking him to the ground.

The soldiers jump on top of him and get in a few more licks before the police arrive and break up the fight.

We’re not sure if anyone was arrested or seriously injured so we’ve reached out to the Austin PD for answers. So far, no word back.

Keep the war on the battlefield next time!!!

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Marinos vs. civiles Estalla la guerra en Texas... Muestra un salvaje video

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Marinos uniformados se enfrentaron a golpes contra algunos civiles durante un acalorado conflicto en Texas, y toda la escena fue capturada en video.

El caos fue filmado el domingo por la noche por testigos afuera de Austin Voodoo Room. La pelea estalló después de que una mujer supuestamente tratara de arrebatarle un teléfono a un infante de marina.

Echa un vistazo al clip, donde se ve a los marinos vestidos en sus uniformes de gala enfrentarse a la mujer y a algunos otros hombres en la calle.

Los dos bandos empiezan a discutir y a empujarse hasta que uno de los hombres golpea a un marino en la cabeza, provocando que se desate el infierno.

Varios marinos se lanzan contra el tipo, golpeándolo en la cara y tirándolo al suelo.

Los soldados saltan sobre él y le dan unos cuantos golpes más antes de que llegue la policía y disuelva la pelea.

No estamos seguros de si alguien fue arrestado o herido de gravedad, por lo que nos contactamos con la policía de Austin para obtener respuestas. Hasta ahora, no hemos recibido nada de vuelta.

La próxima vez... ¡¡¡mantengan la guerra en el campo de batalla!!!

Clipper Darrell Still Reeling From Knockout Punch ... Suffering Headaches, Dizziness

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Clipper Darrell says the punch that sent him crashing to the ground following a game in L.A. last year is still causing him issues ... and they're so bad, he tells TMZ Sports they're currently preventing him from going to see his beloved team in person this year.

The Clippers superfan -- real name Darrell Bailey -- suffered the initial injury back on Dec. 12, 2022 ... after a security guard tagged him on the chin following a dispute in the bowels of Crypto.com Arena.

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Darrell says despite having 11 months to recover ... he's still not doing so hot, telling us, "I'm still in therapy."

CD says frequent headaches and dizziness are commonplace for him still ... adding that he'll never "tease another player in life" over concussions due to the horrible experience he's having with the one he sustained.

"The headaches and the dizziness is still there," he said.

Darrell, though, remains a monster Clippers fan despite it all ... recently telling us he expects James Harden to gel with the rest of the squad soon -- and end up as a top-three seed in the playoffs.

CLIPPER DARRELL TODAVÍA SE TAMBALEA POR EL GOLPE DE GRACIA

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Clipper Darrell dice que el puñetazo que le envió a estrellarse contra el suelo después de un partido en Los Ángeles el año pasado todavía le está causando problemas. Le comentó a TMZ Sports que actualmente le están impidiendo ir a ver a su amado equipo en persona este año.

El superfan de los Clippers cuyo nombre real es Darrell Bailey, sufrió la lesión inicial el 12 de diciembre de 2022, luego de que un guardia de seguridad lo golpeó en la barbilla después de una disputa en el Crypto.com Arena.

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Darrell dice que a pesar haberse recuperado durante 11 meses, todavía no está bien: "Todavía estoy en terapia".

Dice que los dolores de cabeza son frecuentes y los mareos son habituales, añadiendo que nunca "se burlará de otro jugador en la vida". Tiene algunas conmociones cerebrales debido a la horrible experiencia que sufrió.

"Los dolores de cabeza y los mareos siguen ahí", dijo.

Sin embargo, Darrell sigue siendo un fanático de los Clippers a pesar de todo. Recientemente nos dijo que espera que James Harden se una al resto del equipo pronto y termine como uno de los tres primeros en los playoffs.

Taylor Swift Gasps For Air During Sizzling Hot Concert In Brazil

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Taylor Swift was seemingly gasping for air during her sweltering hot concert in Brazil, freaking out some of her fans.

The pop superstar performed for hours in nearly 100-degree heat Friday night at Estadio Olímpico Nilton Santos stadium in Rio de Janeiro -- and the video shows how much the soaring temperature impacted Taylor.

Keep in mind, this was the same night one of Taylor's fans, Ana Clara Benevides, died right before the show kicked off.

Video of Taylor’s scary moment was posted to X … it starts with Taylor wrapping up a song with her back to the packed crowd. She then turns to the audience, huffing and puffing as if she’s struggling to breathe. The 12-second clip ends with Taylor closing her eyes.

Her worried fans responded to the video post, sharing their concerns. One wrote, "OMG… this breaks my heart in so many levels. She’s so professional but watching her like this, my best wishes go to her.”

Another pointed out, “She is only 33 and in incredible physical shape. That she was struggling that much is really scary," while a third person remarked, “Taylor was struggling to breathe as well!!”

Due to the extreme temps, Taylor announced she was postponing her Saturday concert in Rio because the “safety and well-being of my fans, fellow performers, and crew has to and always will come first.”

Benevides complained she wasn't feeling well right before Friday night's show began, and was reportedly taken to a hospital where she died. The official cause of death hasn't been determined.

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As of now, Taylor is scheduled to perform Sunday night in Rio, but, obviously, those plans could change as well.